John Hart headstone Groveland Cemetery (not to be posted to a commercial site such as Ancestry) |
Sarah (Sally) Hart headstone Groveland Cemetery (not to be posted to a commercial site such as Ancestry) |
John and Sally (a.k.a. Sarah) Hart were my great great
grandparents, and were the parents of my great grandfather, Melvin J. Hart
(could the “j” stand for “John”?) I am writing about them today, not because I
have learned quite a bit about them, but because I am not yet satisfied by what
I yet know. I am hoping that by writing about them I will learn more, as I
always do when I write about my ancestors. I am also hoping that this post will
draw the interest of those who are more informed, and that they will kindly
share their knowledge with me. Due to there not being vital records for them
that I am aware of, except for Sally’s birth, and photos of their headstones, and due to their
not being written about as much as all the other Harts in the line going back
to the earliest Harts in America, they are a bit of a mystery. I am especially
interested in linking them more strongly to Melvin (I do have some solid links
here), but also to linking John more firmly to his father, the Hon. Stephen
Hart. I will share with you now what I do know. Both John and Sally over the course of their lives
travelled far from their places of birth, and were among early settlers as
children, and in older age. I am grateful to Jerry of the Lewis County Historical
Society for providing me with resources relating to the Hart and Wright
families which I could not have otherwise obtained.
John was born on May 11, 1797 in Stillwater, Saratoga,
New York. In about 1805, his father, the Hon. Stephen Hart and his mother
Elizabeth “Betsey” Scidmore Hart brought the family with them from Stillwater
to Pinckney, Lewis County, New York, where Stephen was one of the founders of
the town. (Stephen and Betsey are to be the next subjects of this blog). It was
part of Harrisburg at the time, and the county area was still part of Oneida
County. It was often referred to as “the Black River country”. The data I have
linking John to Stephen are a reference to a listing of Methodist church goers
in the area which list John and Sally along with Stephen and Betsey as
parishoners, and an article written by L.F. Wright about the founders of the
area. In it, Wright lists the children of Stephen and Elizabeth Hart as “John,
Sarah, Richard, Wealthy, Fanny, Alvin, Abigail, Jeremiah, Phillip, Stephen,
George, Phoebe, Reuben, and James”. From records I have for the other children,
John appears to be second eldest after Sarah, and the eldest son of the family.
The Stephen Hart family appear to be the only Harts living in the Pinckney
area, so it is unlikely that our John could be the son of another Hart. (There
is another Stephen Hart living in Lewis County at the time, but he is living in
Turin. I needed to find out more about this Stephen before I could be sure
about the records I had for John’s father. I did a lot of research on this
Stephen and discovered that although he was not related to the Pinckney Harts,
he was part of another separate Hart line on Sally’s tree, which leads back to
the famous early settler in Connecticut, Deacon Stephen Hart. So he was related
to Sally’s Harts, but not to John’s. Therefore, the Turin Stephen has been
included on my tree).
Sally Wright Merriam was born on August 12, 1796 in
Winchester, Litchfield, Connecticut. She was the daughter of William Merriam,
whose occupation was that of a “joiner”, and Lydia Wright Merriam. She came
with her family and her extended family to what is now Denmark, Lewis County,
in 1802. (I will say more about this journey when I write about her
grandfather, Charles Wright). She is listed as one of William and Lydia’s
children in The Annals and Family Records
of Winchester Connecticut, and in The
Merriam Genealogy in England and America, where it also stated that she
married John Hart and removed to Minnesota. A Wright family genealogy provided
by the Lewis County Historical Society states that Sally married John Hart. I
have an unsourced report that John and Sally married on November 3, 1820.
Their son Melvin’s Civil War pension file provided a
transcription of a family Bible page, which stated that the ten children of
John and Sarah Hart were Chloe, Aldula, Lovina, Alvira, Delilah, Joel, James,
Phoebe, Hester, and Melvin. (See my first blog on Melvin for the birthdates).
Luckily, the family is captured on the 1830, 1840, 1850,
and 1860 United States Censuses. The 1830 and 1840 Censuses only provide the
name of the head of the household, and a “John Hart” is living in Pinckney in
both. The number of people in the household, their age ranges and genders in
the 1840 census match perfectly with what would be expected from the family
Bible transcription, and the 1830 census has a few discrepancies, which is
common in census data. The 1850 Census finds the family farming in Hermon,
Saint Lawrence, New York. By this time, only the four youngest children are
living with them: James, Phoebe, Hester Ann and Melvin. The value of John’s
real estate is listed as “$500.00”. By 1860, John and Sarah (she mostly seems
to be referred to as “Sarah” as an
adult), are back living in Pinckney, and the value of John’s real estate has
dropped to “$250.00”. His personal estate is listed as “$951.00”. Only one of
their children, Hester Ann, is still living with them, and she is married, but
not living with her husband.
Sometime between 1861 and 1864, John and Sally move to Rice county, Minnesota, where their son Joel has been living since at least 1859, when he married Elizabeth Frances Poe. They may have travelled with some or all of their children who also eventually moved to this area, including Hester Ann, Melvin, Delilah, Chloe and Alvira. James settled in Iowa, as did Melvin later. Two of their other daughters may have also come with them, but I do not have much information about them beyond their births. These include Aldula and Phoebe. Lovina is the only one we know who seemed to have lived and died in New York State. Alvira and Delilah are both married to Glaziers, who therefore may be brothers, William and Daniel respectively. In addition, John's brother, Stephen A. Hart, is living in Goodhue, Minnesota with his family by 1854, where he is elected County Surveyor. Stephen may have been the first of the Harts to settle in Minnesota. John`s uncle, Philip Hart, died in Roscoe, Goodhue in October 1860, and may have been in Minnesota as early as 1850, when he is found in Pennsylvania in the census, the next earliest record that I have.
Sometime between 1861 and 1864, John and Sally move to Rice county, Minnesota, where their son Joel has been living since at least 1859, when he married Elizabeth Frances Poe. They may have travelled with some or all of their children who also eventually moved to this area, including Hester Ann, Melvin, Delilah, Chloe and Alvira. James settled in Iowa, as did Melvin later. Two of their other daughters may have also come with them, but I do not have much information about them beyond their births. These include Aldula and Phoebe. Lovina is the only one we know who seemed to have lived and died in New York State. Alvira and Delilah are both married to Glaziers, who therefore may be brothers, William and Daniel respectively. In addition, John's brother, Stephen A. Hart, is living in Goodhue, Minnesota with his family by 1854, where he is elected County Surveyor. Stephen may have been the first of the Harts to settle in Minnesota. John`s uncle, Philip Hart, died in Roscoe, Goodhue in October 1860, and may have been in Minnesota as early as 1850, when he is found in Pennsylvania in the census, the next earliest record that I have.
John Hart died on December 26, 1864, and is buried in
Groveland Cemetery in Bridgewater, Rice County, Minnesota. Sarah and Melvin are
living with Joel and his family in Forest, Rice County in 1865; and she is
found living with her daughter Delilah and her family in 1870 in Walcott, Rice
County. She died on February 17, 1872, and is buried with her husband. All three of their sons, Joel, James and Melvin, fought in the Civil War and survived.
By the way, my prediction was correct--I did find more records and make more connections in writing this post. These were the 1830 Census data, and Delilah's marriage, and therefore her later life and her descendants. Bonus.
By the way, my prediction was correct--I did find more records and make more connections in writing this post. These were the 1830 Census data, and Delilah's marriage, and therefore her later life and her descendants. Bonus.
4 comments:
Hello, Sherry
I stumbled on your blog today and found it very interesting! I am descended from John's (of John & Sally) grandfather, Jeremiah through his son John H who m. Catherine Arnold. All my Harts as far as I knew were NY, MI and some eventually landed in Washington state. Interesting to know that I have distant cousins in MN. My tree is uploaded on ancestry though I am due an upgrade apparently since FTM/MacKiev has changed things.
Karen Wellford
PS My tree is largely unsourced so caveat emptor!
Thank you so much for your comment, Karen. Sorry about the delay in responding. I would like to communicate with you further. Please consider emailing me at: chart5x5@gmail.com. Best, Sherry.
I sent this to Sherry today - posting a query... is Stephen Hart the father of John Hart and son of Jeremiah Hart or is Stephen the brother of John and both are sons of Jeremiah? I remain uncertain.
Thank you for writing it is always a pleasure to find a cousin. Your message prompted to dig a bit into the Hart/Merriam part of the Glazier family a part of my tree I had not spent much time on. My paternal Grandmother was born Zella Genevieve Glazier (married name Zella Parsons.) Her father my 1st gr. grandfather was William Ward Glazier this part of the history is from my personal knowledge transmitted to me from my grandmother Zella. From what I have learned on Ancestory Ward William Glazier was the son of William S. Glazier and Alvira Hart. Alivira was born 27 May 1827 in Pinkney, NY to our common ancestors John Hart and Sally Sarah Wright Merriam. I do have recollections of my Grandmother and her brother Watt (my Great Uncle) speaking abouut Alvira but don't find an documents about her in the material given to me by my grandmother.
From John Hart back things get a bit interesting -- I had accepted the Ancestry.com hints and placed Stephen Hart in my family tree as John's Father - this then leads to Stephen's father Jerimiah and his father Captain John Hart the husband of Mary Tabor who you mention above as a direct descendent of the Mayflower passengers.
I noticed I had received a huge amount of hints (some 42) about John Hart through ancestry and that the bulk of the hints on closer inspection came from 1_chart which I now recognize as your ancestry.com moniker.
One hint that came from a different source was a link to www.findagrave.com The specific link was: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/80326750 following that link takes me to a page for John Hart with an image of John's grave in Dundas, Rice County, MN that matches the image you have in your records. However the link there states that Johns's father was not named Stephen but was Jeremiah Hart (the same son of Captain Richard Hart and Mary Tabor) exploring the links shows Stephen Hart to also be a son of Jeremiah and therefore an elder brother of our John Hart .
Is it possible that the reason there is no documentation of John's father being Stephen is that Stephen is his brother and his actually father is Jeremiah Hart directly?
Regards,
Gregg
Hi Gregg.
Thank you so much for your comment. John's father was Stephen Hart, but he also had a brother named Stephen A. Hart, who was a surveyor in Minnesota. I have blogged about him a couple of times. I am hoping that Stephen A.'s connection to John's family may help me prove that John was the son of their father, Stephen Sr.
Best,
Sherry
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